| IF This News Does Not WAKE You UP !!! You SHOUNT Ever WAKE UP !!! THE PATRIOT ACT !!! The Patriot Act is a Act Against The Patriots !!! by, Ace Banger, The Guru ================================================================= Senators Demand the Military Lock Up of American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window UPDATE III: The Senate rejected the Udall amendment 38-60. While nearly all Americans head to family and friends to celebrate Thanksgiving, the Senate is gearing up for a vote on Monday or Tuesday that goes to the very heart of who we are as Americans. The Senate will be voting on a bill that will direct American military resources not at an enemy shooting at our military in a war zone, but at American citizens and other civilians far from any battlefield — even people in the United States itself. Senators need to hear from you, on whether you think your front yard is part of a “battlefield” and if any president can send the military anywhere in the world to imprison civilians without charge or trial. The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. Even Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised his concerns about the NDAA detention provisions during last night’s Republican debate. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself. The worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial provision is in S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which will be on the Senate floor on Monday. The bill was drafted in secret by Sens. Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R- Ariz.) and passed in a closed-door committee meeting, without even a single hearing. I know it sounds incredible. New powers to use the military worldwide, even within the United States? Hasn’t anyone told the Senate that Osama bin Laden is dead, that the president is pulling all of the combat troops out of Iraq and trying to figure out how to get combat troops out of Afghanistan too? And American citizens and people picked up on American or Canadian or British streets being sent to military prisons indefinitely without even being charged with a crime. Really? Does anyone think this is a good idea? And why now? The answer on why now is nothing more than election season politics. The White House, the Secretary of Defense, and the Attorney General have all said that the indefinite detention provisions in the National Defense Authorization Act are harmful and counterproductive. The White House has even threatened a veto. But Senate politics has propelled this bad legislation to the Senate floor. But there is a way to stop this dangerous legislation. Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) is offering the Udall Amendment that will delete the harmful provisions and replace them with a requirement for an orderly Congressional review of detention power. The Udall Amendment will make sure that the bill matches up with American values. In support of this harmful bill, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) explained that the bill will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield” and people can be imprisoned without charge or trial “American citizen or not.” Another supporter, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) also declared that the bill is needed because “America is part of the battlefield.” The solution is the Udall Amendment; a way for the Senate to say no to indefinite detention without charge or trial anywhere in the world where any president decides to use the military. Instead of simply going along with a bill that was drafted in secret and is being jammed through the Senate, the Udall Amendment deletes the provisions and sets up an orderly review of detention power. It tries to take the politics out and put American values back in. In response to proponents of the indefinite detention legislation who contend that the bill “applies to American citizens and designates the world as the battlefield,” and that the “heart of the issue is whether or not the United States is part of the battlefield,” Sen. Udall disagrees, and says that we can win this fight without worldwide war and worldwide indefinite detention. The senators pushing the indefinite detention proposal have made their goals very clear that they want an okay for a worldwide military battlefield, that even extends to your hometown. That is an extreme position that will forever change our country. Now is the time to stop this bad idea. Please urge your senators to vote YES on the Udall Amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act. UPDATE I: Don’t be confused by anyone claiming that the indefinite detention legislation does not apply to American citizens. It does. There is an exemption for American citizens from the mandatory detention requirement (section 1032 of the bill), but no exemption for American citizens from the authorization to use the military to indefinitely detain people without charge or trial (section 1031 of the bill). So, the result is that, under the bill, the military has the power to indefinitely imprison American citizens, but it does not have to use its power unless ordered to do so. But you don’t have to believe us. Instead, read what one of the bill’s sponsors, Sen. Lindsey Graham said about it on the Senate floor: “1031, the statement of authority to detain, does apply to American citizens and it designates the world as the battlefield, including the homeland.” There you have it — indefinite military detention of American citizens without charge or trial. And the Senate is likely to vote on it Monday or Tuesday. UPDATE II: The debate on NDAA has begun. Your Senator needs to hear from you RIGHT NOW! >> 50 Responses to "Senators Demand the Military Lock Up of American Citizens in a “Battlefield” They Define as Being Right Outside Your Window" 1.Anonymous Says: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 5:55pm Chalk up Senator Pat Toomey as a supporter of this bill. All I can hope is that he is one of the first to feel the results of this bill. 2.Anonymous Says: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 9:17pm This is madness! The solution is to quash the bill completely. We are becoming the very Tyrants our Forefathers warned us about. 3.Anonymous Says: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 9:18pm Sorry but this country is sscrewed. Sold down the river... Again and again. 4.Anonymous Says: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 10:36pm somebody's replaced almost all of the links in this story with internal links to an ACLU action site. Please fix. 5.Anonymous Says: Nov 23rd, 2011 at 11:07pm oh dear god no. 6.Steve Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:27am Sounds like they've been taking 'Security Seminars' with Mugabe, Chavez and friends. Or is it taken straight out of the Iranian 'Book of Civil Libertie's? 7.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:14am America is now Amerika. The old America is gone 8.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:57am Nazi germany oh I mean post 9/11 usa 9.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:19am In ancient Rome when Senators and Congressmen acted up, they were put to the sword, or fed to the lions! Sounds good to me! 10.ed b Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:24pm So which Senators are in favor of this US battleground folly? 11.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 1:47pm Do we even need the Udall Amendment? Why not just a straight NO vote on the original bill? 12.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:02pm The solution is to vote these assholes out of office, or a new DEMOCRACY founded on top of the ashes of this stinking republic. 13.Rev. Larry R. Eggers Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 3:48pm It is actions like the contents of S. 1867 (the National Defense Authorization Act bill) done IN SECRET that are unAmerican! 14.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 4:54pm Why not urge senators to vote down the bill altogether and then an amendment would be superfluous? 15.Morgan Feldon Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 5:47pm Apparently they've never heard of the Posse Comitatus Act. 16.John Chasnoff Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 7:22pm I haven't read the Udall amendment, but it seems the aclu is supporting indefinite detention of citizens if reviewed by Congress. If so, why? 17.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:33pm The 1% is scared. 18.Anonymous Says: Nov 24th, 2011 at 11:58pm Goodbye John McCain,Don't tread on me my friend! I fought for freedom,liberty and justice. A free land with certain rights.I am an Oathkeeper.Never on my watch! Skip Stranahan for we The People 19.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:06am F* these douchecakes...they can have my body but will never have my soul. 20.Austin Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 3:16am W....t....f... HAHAHAHA. 21.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:04am If this law passes, and I was president, I would use it to indefinately detain congress! 22.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 9:22am Hey, isn't this..erm..Martial Law? 23.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 10:50am I think its time to arrest and try the senate for treason... 24.Gun toting Liberal Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 11:18am So why doesn't the ACLU support the 2nd Amendment which is the safeguard written into the Bill of Rights to prevent this? 25.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 11:23am "And then they come for you." is knock, knock, knocking on your door. Sing Daisy for me again Senators. 26.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 11:24am What do you mean "even" Ron Paul? He is always, always at the forefront of trying to keep government from overreaching its constitutional authority! 27.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 11:57am vote NO on the entire insane bill, not yes to an amendment. That is a crazy idea. 28.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 12:00pm GITMO for EVERYBODY 29.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 12:03pm This policy is already being used so this senate vote is irrelevant unless it curtails murder by presidential decree! 30.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 12:16pm Washington DC declares war on the United States. 31.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 12:26pm It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this is wrong! 32.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 12:29pm Welcome to NAZI America! 33.BeingDS Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 12:31pm This is a direct violation of both Fourth and Seventh Amendment rights and therefore it won't stand, even if it does pass. 34.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 1:33pm How about just shutting down the bill altogether. No bill or Udall amendment. 35.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 1:43pm looks like implementation of nwo finale is coming soon to a secret prison near you. 36.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 1:48pm How about instead of saying yes to the Udall amendment we say no to the first one. 37.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:17pm I could name some war criminals they could start with detaining. 38.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 2:29pm Is there a war going on within the USA? Are there armed units within the US which are attacking the US military within the US? If so, then the US is already a battle zone. 39.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 4:30pm And people think we can trust any of our Senators to look our for our interests? 40.James Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 4:46pm Legally, all Bills are to originate in the Congress, not the Senate. Same thing with Obamacare, Un-Constitutional originated in the Senate. 41.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 5:56pm Military Industrial Complex going to work! 42.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 6:03pm Crap, what do I do when my senator is Mr. Levin? Yeah, I know, vote the bum out of office. 43.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:39pm I'm already locked and loaded preparing for the next false flag final takeover. If this passes, I'll be sure to always pack and be ready to fight for my God given rights! 44.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:50pm Fire them!!!! They are nazis!!!! 45.C Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 7:52pm Awesome! And I am the first to leave a comment. And I am in Kanada (but I still pay attention and know, what's not cool in Amerika is not gonna be cool in Kanada either. 46.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:18pm "Yes" on the Udall Amendment? Are you OUT OF YOUR GODDAMNED MIND? NO to the whole idea. 47.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:42pm the repeal of posse commitatus the suspension of habeus corpus 48.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 8:52pm ...being RIGHT outside your window? It's not true, it's LEFT outside....LEFT, you hear! Stupid right using. 49.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 9:27pm I wonder how the civil war was fought? Forget indefinite detention, the concept of 'total war' was developed during the civil war. This is milder than, killing and burning ... 50.Anonymous Says: Nov 25th, 2011 at 9:28pm What do you think FEMA is in prep for? And all the rail roads? http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/senators-demand-military-lock-american-citizens-battlefield-they-define-being =========================================================================================== OTHER LINKS TO BACK THIS STORIES OUTRAGE !!! http://www.naturalnews.com/034291_SB_1867_war_on_terror.html http://forum.goupstate.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8299&p=93172 http://current.com/community/93558830_us-senate-to-vote-on-bill-that-will-allow-the-military-to-arrest-americans-on-american-soil- and-hold-them-indefinitely.htm http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/12/01/can-congress-steal-your-constitutional-freedoms/ OBAMA DECEPTION ... THE MOVIE Globalization, New World Order, FEMA Camps and Dictator Hussein Obama April 14, 2009 By Randy Taylor “Keep this in mind. I didn’t bring these conspiracy subjects up. You did. You asked for my thoughts. You have them. Do I have all the answers? Obviously not, but then again you don’t either or you wouldn’t be asking me.”- Randy Taylor By Randy Taylor 14 April 2009: The talk of the day is Globalization and the New World Order. America is on the brink of losing her sovereignty as a free nation and is going to be absorbed into a one world government. In my opinion, this is well underway and has been for probably about twenty years or so. We heard George Bush Sr. speak of it, then Bill Clinton and George W. Bush and now of course, Dictator Hussein Obama, the FBP. We’ll jokingly refer to him as king, since we are obviously nothing but pawns and he isn’t doing anything that an American democratic republic would approve of or want their President to do. Dictator Hussein Obama was tripping around the world, slapping backs, bowing to Muslims and leaving lip prints on every ass he can find. Unfortunately, many of those asses being kissed are enemies of the United States even though publicly they call themselves our allies. Only a dictator would dare fire the head General Motors as surely presidents don’t do this sort of thing. Only a dictator would hand out trillions of dollars to banking cronies and then tell them to keep the money, don’t worry about repayment to the US taxpayer peasants. Only a Muslim dictator would seek to fill government positions with Muslims. The dictator is hard at work on this one. Muslims, delusional women, ex black panthers, former terrorists all seem to be his chosen cronies. As to the New World Order and Globalization, Revelation chapter 17 speaks of seven heads. There are seven continents. You do the math. Revelation 13: 16-17 describes the mark of the beast. 16: And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads; 17: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. The proposed national ID cards, RDIF chips, or any number of others things being proposed could easily fulfill this. Once again, you do the math. Note the verse says “in” their foreheads and in their hands, not “on” either one. That sounds like a chip to me. They are doing it to kids and animals, under the guise of making the kids easier to find when lost or kidnapped. That’s pretty much bullshit since if someone kidnaps your child you would have to assume they would cut the chip out. But it was sold to us as a measure of security”. How about just keeping a better eye on your kids? This occupant of the Oval Office still has not proven he is worthy of the office and still refuses to show us a valid certificate of live birth. Problem is no one that is supposed to be on the side of the American people seems to care. The Supreme Court, the highest court in the land won’t listen to the American people. They are obviously being told to close their doors on the subject which is criminal in itself. The resort that the American people always had when wronged was the legal system. Well, if the legal system won’t listen to you, you are out of options. Well almost out of options. The irony is that the methods that allow people to right a wrong legally are being closed down. Then when you voice your protest you suddenly are a malcontent, a right wing conspiracy theorist and might make some sort of watch list for speaking out against the obvious wrongs being perpetrated against the American people. As one of the American sheep, if you break away from the fold, they will surely send the dogs after you. We need to be clear on something here. The current dictator Hussein Obama inherited what was already in motion as far as the economy, infringements on Constitutional rights and this huge banking crisis. This was all underway when Bush was still in office. This goes back further than that. The banking collapse started many, many years ago. When the Democrats started pushing Fannie Mae and others into making it to where everyone qualified to own a home, paper backed securities were in trouble. The problem with Hussein Obama is the fact that he has no plans to fix it without selling off the US as a whole to our enemies. He has the business acumen of a housefly. He has no interest in protecting the rights of Americans. We mistakenly traded off many of our rights as citizens because of the terrorist attacks of 9/11. We cannot trade freedoms to gain freedom from terrorism. Islam is our largest and most serious threat to the nation as a whole, BUT, the government has used Islamic terrorism as a tool to strip away things from us. The provisions of Patriot acts 1&2 were sold to us as solely to be used in counter-terrorism efforts. This isn’t solely the case anymore. People who show any kind of dissent towards the government now stand the chance of being slipped into a national security threat category simply because they exercise their rights. The formation of militias was encouraged by our forefathers as was the right to bear arms. These were designed to keep the government in check and from being oppressive. Now, as predicted, militias and their members are seen as domestic terrorists. There is a difference between a militia group and a terrorist group. Somehow, they have been lumped together. There are many groups out there that should fall under suspected terrorist groups, but not all of them. That is a pretty broad stroke of the terrorist label brush. You will find that most militias intend to defend Americans, not kill them. That should bear weight when classifying them as to whether they are a danger as a terrorist group. The government knows that Islam is the primary National Security threat and they use this to their advantage. If they were truly interested in protecting America from Islam, they would simply ban it like they banned smoking in public places or made seat belts a mandatory law. Since Islam is a political issue, not the religious issue the Muslims like to claim, banning it should not be a problem. If we are going to break Constitutional rules, then break one in America’s favor. Islam likes to hide behind the guise of a religious issue when they want to be able to wear hijabs for their driver’s license photos. Hijabs and head covering are a cultural issue, not a religious one. If I cannot wear a ski mask into the bank, you shouldn’t be able to wear a hijab in there either. If I cannot wear a ski mask for my driver’s license photo, then you can’t wear the hijab. If you don’t like it Muslim, then go back to where you came from, take a Muslim with you. Besides, what would the Muslims do? Get upset? Sue the government? Protest? So what? Just send their court papers to the same courts we sent all the Obama Birth certificate lawsuits to. They will just go away, just like the Obama birth certificate issue went away. I’ve had quite a few emails lately asking about FEMA camps in the US and additionally asked for my thoughts on whether they actually exist and what would they be used for? Two other popular subjects are the hundreds of thousands of plastic coffins being stored in various places and only recently, a person emailed in and asked what I knew about DHS transporting Bird Flue to various locations in the US by way of civilian over the road truckers, the one most cited is by “Mary” who tells the story of a Mexican truck driver who gets paid cash for loads of Bird Flu delivered. A Mexican being paid cash certainly isn’t novel in itself and I researched the subject and found a few discrepancies in the reporting. She details how fake trips are documented from one specific town to another on freight slips, says the truck driver has never been to these places although his slips say he has and then two sentences later says that the police in the one town escort him to the city limits when he is there. Mary, was he there or not? There are far too many holes in the story at this point to draw a conclusion. Is it possible? Yes. But not based on “Mary’s” accounting of the incidents. On the FEMA camps, I agree that there exist numerous barbed wire compounds scattered across the US and that we as Americans have a right to ask and I think that DHS and FEMA should openly disclose to the tax- paying public what these compounds are intended to be used for. First, it would be nice to see if they are actually operated by FEMA, DHS, the military or the federal prison system. It has become quite a topic as of late and one would think that given the current condition of total mistrust of the US government by a huge portion of the US citizenry, that the government would just come out and offer an explanation. Since the government has not addressed this in any manner, then I suggest that we as Americans push the issue with them until they address it. The other problem with people speaking out on these camps the is lack of information as to their exact locations, photos or film from more than the 4 or 5 available online and something other than just a Google pin point display showing hundreds of “generic” locations. Give us something solid to take the government to task starting with some better data. I’ve done a couple dozen Google Earth searches and can’t even find any compounds in some of the named locations, chosen by random. As far as I’m concerned nothing has been proven. Many people who speak of them keep referring to media reports on this, media reports on that and then in the same breath say the media sucks on other subjects. If you are going to use mainstream media for your proof, then you have to accept them when they counter what you are saying. Try some independent research. Give me those results and that data. Then I’ll go to battle on your side. However, it is only one issue on a long list of issues that needs to be addressed with the government. Problem is that no one in the government seems to care what the US citizens think. The US Congress and the US Senate resemble a huge dog and pony show with everyone playing their little roles while nothing is really being done for the American people. Here’s my advice on the FEMA camps and keeping yourself out of them if you suspect they are for you. Don’t surrender your weapons to the government under any circumstances. If you do, then nefarious things like being picked up and transported to a camp could become a reality. Many terrible things can happen to an unarmed population. If there is a conspiracy to imprison Americans, then you being armed is the key to deter the conspiracy. As to the plastic coffins, they could actually be available for disasters and the bodies afterwards. Why over a half a million of them? Well, if there was a disaster and the death toll was one million and FEMA only had 500,000 coffins we have to listen to that angle on the news for months about how FEMA failed to order enough coffins. They probably got a much better deal by buying quantity. There are dark things happening all around us with regard to the government. There always has been. Reality is that I could formulate a conspiracy theory for almost everything I have seen done by the government in the last thirty years. But you have to have facts and cannot rely purely on supposition and suspicion otherwise you get dismissed by the majority. So far, there has been a flaw in almost every decent conspiracy theory. That’s where the focus should be. Fill in the gaps. Make the argument flawless, watertight and irrefutable. Find people other than questionable people to give their accounts. Like the anonymous woman on the Flight #93 shoot down order, she was doing pretty good until she started on about seeing blue auras leaving dead bodies. That indicates the wispy wonderful world of unreality to me. I deleted the entire audio at that point. If you have photos, films and addresses or even grid coordinates on what you know are camps to be used for imprisonment by FEMA, military or otherwise within the US, send them to me. Don’t send them in without precise locations. Don’t send me YouTube videos. I’ve seen them all. They are too generic and open to speculation as well as too easily explained away. They always seem to lack exact locations somehow. The ones of graves being dug in cemeteries doesn’t exactly prove anything. Now some graves being dug in the Nevada desert by the government might. If they want to dispose of millions of bodies because they killed those people, I’m thinking big holes, bulldozers and lime might be cheaper. Keep this in mind. I didn’t bring these conspiracy subjects up. You did. You asked for my thoughts. You have them. Do I have all the answers? Obviously not, but then again you don’t either or you wouldn’t be asking me. Keep digging. Find the truth in all things. Make your government accountable to you. They work for us, we don’t work for them. Be safe. Stay vigilant. |
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